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One turn after the Ancipation card is played (or one turn before if the copy card have been played), you should each turn assign one player for this place because having 2 players on this place is bad. Doesn't mean this player should go there, but he should take all the probability of all players on this place. | One turn after the Ancipation card is played (or one turn before if the copy card have been played), you should each turn assign one player for this place because having 2 players on this place is bad. Doesn't mean this player should go there, but he should take all the probability of all players on this place. | ||
Knowing which players should do that is really hard, and you need to understand most of the advanced mechanic for knowing that. Please note on some specific turn it should be 2 or 3 players to be assigned because you want to keep pressure on some others card (like if someone is the only one who can play the card 7 this turn, he should be assigned alone on the 4). | Knowing which players should do that is really hard, and you need to understand most of the advanced mechanic for knowing that. Please note on some specific turn it should be 2 or 3 players to be assigned because you want to keep pressure on some others card (like if someone is the only one who can play the card 7 this turn, he should not be assigned alone on the 4). | ||
Before the anticipation card, it can still be used with more than one player. The higher probability to go on the 4 for one player should be the highest probability to be catch at one place for another player. Good luck for calculate that :D | Before the anticipation card, it can still be used with more than one player. The higher probability to go on the 4 for one player should be the highest probability to be catch at one place for another player. Good luck for calculate that :D |
Версія ад 19:34, 20 мая 2019
General tips :
A) Think about the team : if someone else can go on only 2 or 3 places, you know this place will have more chance to have a player there. So you should put less probability to go there.
B) Manage the lair (1) : you should generally goes on the 1 only if you have 1 will left, or if there is no player with 1 will and you have 3 will.
If you want to go for it on others case, it's an all in move. You should check before if someone else (or 2 players with many players) can goes there instead of you with less risk. And if it's usefull. And then decide : if yes, you should let them go there if they want, and if not, you have the possibility to all-in. Doesn't mean you should goes for it, but it's a possibility.
C) As the creature if you want to block 1+another place, you should generally put your creature token on 1 since it remove 2 will instead of 1. And only not putting the creature on 1 when you don't decide to block 1.
D) First turn : you should play on consequence of your card : if your card can move the creature token, goes on 1, if many players goes there, you can cancel that. If you can move the artemis token, goes on 5. If you can copy an adjacent place, goes on 4 for copy 5. If you can use the rover power whatever your place, goes on 2 or 4, etc... Same for card who let you take more or less risk.
Playing a card who remove the possibility of play of the creature can be really good at the first turn, for trying to get some free 5 (with either 1 or 5, or 3 and trying to get 5 second turn).
1 the lair : high risk, could be really good.
2 the jungle : low risk, low reward, why not go there, you just temporise the game and keep all your 5 cards.
3 the river : let you more liberty for after can be good.
4 the beach : we are not agree on that. Some token for the creature let him block two different place. And the best move to do with that card is to block 4+5 and put the creature token on 1 or 3. So 4 can be some collateral damage 25% of the time who remove a lot of the value of this place for the first turn. Even if the creature know it (which happen ~25% of the time). But else, it's fairly safe, and have few chance to receive the creature token
5 the rover : best one, but the creature know it too. Still should put some pressure on it.
E) Cards who let you advance your token should be played when you can avoid the artemis token next turn, so don't hesitate to keep them a long time.
Same with power 4 and 8 who have more value when you can avoid artemis next turn.
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Value of places :
1°] The lair : Tips B and C.
A special one, high risk, high reward. It's efficient for trying to copy a 3 or a 5 on the early game if the creature protect a lot the 5.
2°] The jungle : More powerfull than it seem.
Taking back one card 'for free' let you have more possibility later on the game, which is really good, especially if you will keep all your card a lot (equal, you have 3 will).
On the opposite, if you only got 1 will, you will have on average less turn before you will get catch by the creature, so it have less value. Going for the 2 if all players who can play the 2 are the one who have played no card are fine, it's a low risk low reward choice. Else, if others players have some card on their discard pile, you should let them do the 2.
Something interresting about it and the 6 (the swamp), it's the fact the only way for this card to be discarded (is one of a specific card and) to be catched on this place. So often, all players will keep his 2.
3°] The river : A really good one who let you have more possibility to playone turn after.
It's really good to be used in a combinaison of the 1 (the lair) for negate the high risk of this place.
It's valor can goes up or down on value depending of the gameplay of the creature. If you see the creature to never focusing you, it will have few effect, you should instead still goes for your powerfull place/help your team, and if the creature have a chance to focusing you, it will negate the focus on yourself next turn.
After playing the river, you have the possibility to said to the team you will go on 1/x, or even saying the two place 7/9.
Picking two adjacent place have less value since the creature have the possibility to randomly blocking you.
4°] The beach : Tips E. Same than 2, a really undervalued one. I don't arrive to know if it's better at 2 players or at 7 players. Both game have really different mechanic.
The Interference card remove this poower and the power of the wreck (8). So, in late game, if this card isn't played, you should keep on mind this card. It became a little better to hide at the cost of losing one card, but a worst one for helping the team. Warning, mind blowing tips, you are warned.
One turn after the Ancipation card is played (or one turn before if the copy card have been played), you should each turn assign one player for this place because having 2 players on this place is bad. Doesn't mean this player should go there, but he should take all the probability of all players on this place.
Knowing which players should do that is really hard, and you need to understand most of the advanced mechanic for knowing that. Please note on some specific turn it should be 2 or 3 players to be assigned because you want to keep pressure on some others card (like if someone is the only one who can play the card 7 this turn, he should not be assigned alone on the 4).
Before the anticipation card, it can still be used with more than one player. The higher probability to go on the 4 for one player should be the highest probability to be catch at one place for another player. Good luck for calculate that :D
5°] The rover : The best place early on.
The priority early on is to separate all the probability on a maximum number of different place.
So the creature should put more pressure on the 5 early on than usual, because it will help her later on the game. And the player should more probability on it.
At mid game, it let you manage the card played by taking the card another player can't play next turn.
Later on, it became a fairly safe place, who are just a little better than just taking back one card.
You should not try to create the perfect deck with 10 different place, it's fun, but not worth it.
6~10°] We enter on the more specific card, these places should be taken way more than the average, because their effect are better, and because others players haven't that, generally only 1 (or 2) can goes on this place. You have all the probability of all players on this card, so it's a lot.
Note the fact if you are the only one who have taken one of this card at the second turn, and if there is at least 5 players, Ithink going for this place 100% of the time is worth it. Because if the creature want to catch you. Fine. But others players will be able to use their 1/3/5 effect for free, which seem good for the whole game.
6°] The swamp : Same than the jungle (2).
Something interresting about it is the number of swamp you should take as the team. Because this card should be chosen when you have already 1 or 2 card discarded, but if it's the case, it's only a card to hide for free, which isn't particulary good.
But this card if you aren't catched, will always be on your hand, so there will always be a pressure on the 6.
The player would have chosen the swamp, will have more liberty to taking back his card, so the creature should less often focusing him. Since a little resist on 2+6, and it became really hard to focus again this player if you have wrong.
7°] The shelter : The most powerfull one early on for me.
Cards are really powerfull.
The despair card who remove the possibility to play and draw survival card this turn doesn't put the shelter useless, it let you take back one other card of your choice, and from my experience, the creature have never goes there with that card.
8°] The wreck : The most powerfull one later on for me.
Advancing the token when all players have pressure on every number is really good, it make the game goes faster.
Read 4 for Interference and Anticipation card, it stay true for the 8.
9°] The source : Let you most of the time give another will for another player.
The player who should receive this will can be very hard to know.
If you are near the end game, you should try to not let any player loose all his 3 will.
If one player have really few card, one will, and are catch, you should let him die for let him regain back all his card and will.
If one player can put an high pressure on the lair (1) because he only have 1 will (or will have 1 since he will resist), you should let him at 1 will.
If one player could put an high pressure by resisting (like on 7+8), you could choose this one.
The despair card still let you give one will to another player.
10°] The artifact : The less powerfull one.
It stay good for hide, and just temporise the game, so it have more value with very few players (if all others card have been taken).
Else, with 7 players, perhaps using the effect could be good... Could be.
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Now let's get more deep into it, and talk about strategy.
I will suppose the creature is a god, and know everything you can think.
So you need to add some randomness to what you do, else he will know what you will do : so you need to have X% chance to go on Y, Z% chance to goes on W, etc...
That's why having for all players the possibility to goes on every different place, each turn if possible, is the main goal early on.
Now your probability should depend of lots of criteria :
1) What is the place reacheable by at least one player?
Early on, it's only between 1 and 5, so each place possible is already dangerous, that's why doing nothing by taking 2 or 4 have more value. Later on, with good/many players, it's between 8 and 10 different place.
So using card who limit the action of the creature have more value early on (perhaps not first turn though, it depend since everybody have 5 cards), instead of later on.
If one place can't be reached, and you hold that card on your discard pile, resist have way more value than usual.
2) Note which card have been played. I talked more up aboout the most interresting one, who can totally change some choice.
3) Example :
Imagine there is two different players A and B who only hold 1, 2 and 3 card.
And player C who hold 2, 5, 6.
And played D who hold 1, 2, 3, 4, 7.
You, player E hold 2, 5, and 7.
We will ignore the effect of different place for have a more simple situation to analyse.
We will put a % for each player on each place. Let's calculate the average % we need on each place : 100*5players/7place=71,4%.
So the goal is to have the sum of probability of all players to be at 71,4%. We can imagine to decide for the player A to put 71,4% for place 1 and 28,6% for place 2. It's possible, and it's fine if there is no power on the game. But since there are some, we still want some randomness for each player.
So let's imagine player A and B both goes for 33% 1, 33% 2, and 33% 3. It's the best we can do since they only have 3 cards left. So that mean all others players should really rarely play a 1, 2 or 3 card (if we suppose the creature can't play a single card and have one token). Only 4,8% of the time for all others players (so about 1,6% for each).
Yes, it can be really strange, but the creature should play on this place most of the time, so if the creature play somewhere else, it's good for us.
Now, let's see the rest, and calculate again everything is left for players C, D, and E :
Player A : 1 : 33,3% | 2 : 33,3% | 3 : 33,3% | -------------- | -------------- | -------------- | --------------
Player B : 1 : 33,3% | 2 : 33,3% | 3 : 33,3% | -------------- | -------------- | -------------- | --------------
Player C : -------------- | 2 : 01,6% | -------------- | -------------- | 5 : 27,0% | 6 : 71,4% | --------------
Player D : 1 : 04,8% | 2 : 01,6% | 3 : 04,8% | 4 : 71,4% | -------------- | -------------- | 7 : 17,4%
Player E : -------------- | 2 : 01,6% | -------------- | -------------- | 5 : 44,4% | -------------- | 7 : 54,0%
So here, we got something nice, it's beautiful, isn't it?
Of course, there is lots of others possibility, but by putting the same % each time I got the possibility to did it, I got something really different.
We can see a lot of things : per example, going to 4 or 6 should be done 71,4% of the time which is a pretty good number. And so, 8% of the time you should not go there two times on a row which is pretty low. This pourcentage increase when the number of players increase, and decrease when the number of players decreases.
So the creature can target player C or D, play the card 'anticipate' and have 71,4% chance to have right. That's true. But it's only one card on the game, and it's only 71,4%...
Please note this % doesn't take on account the power of some card :
Per exemple, if player D got exactly two will, player A and B should take his 4,8% into their 1.
Another exemple, we doesn't want two players to go on a 4, since the power can't be used twice. So someone should take all % of 4 if they talk in chat. (again, put some attention to some specific card, so it isn't true. But taking more % is at minimum worth it. And it's totally the case here since there is another place (6) who are already a good candidat for anticipate).
Another exemple, if someone didn't played any card, he doesn't want to play 2. It's fine at the first turn of the game, it's fine if the only player who doesn't play any card is the only player who can play 2. But otherwise, it's better to let others players took this %.
Another exemple, 1 with one will, 6 and 7 have better effect than other, so they should have a little more %, and others place should have a little less.
If you understand all that, and if your teamates do the same, it became really difficult to be the creature :}