Tips santorini - Гісторыя версій

Ez0ah: /* God powers */

2020-09-03T21:00:21Z

God powers

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	* Player build: Give more options for the player to build or change their times of building.		* Player build: Give more options for the player to build or change their times of building.
	* Winning conditions: Provide more winning methods for the player or steal the opponment's win.		* Winning conditions: Provide more winning methods for the player or steal the opponment's win.
	* Others: Not mentioned ~~catorgies~~, such as Chaos.		* Others: Not mentioned categories, such as Chaos.

	==Phases of Game==		==Phases of Game==

ArielFriedrichGauss: /* Link to Guide */

2020-09-03T04:23:26Z

Link to Guide

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	==Link to Guide==		==Link to Guide==
	~~en.doc.boardgamearena.com/~~Fullguidesantorini		* [[Fullguidesantorini\|Full Guide of Santorini]]

	Remark: This guide is based on 1v1 but not a 3-player or 4-player game.		Remark: This guide is based on 1v1 but not a 3-player or 4-player game.

ArielFriedrichGauss: /* Introduction */

2020-09-03T03:48:54Z

Introduction

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	There are in total 42 gods in BGA Santorini. It does not mean there are only 42 strategies for the god matchup. Every matchup is composed of two gods. You not only need a specific strategy on your gods, but also on how to use your god well to counter the opponent’s god. A good example is Pegasus vs Hades, in this situation, Pegasus should never jump to an alone level-3 or it will immediately lose 1 worker (because Pegasus can never win the game by that level-3 worker). Also, attempting to win by moving from the corner is never good against Hippolyta (because she can block it and you will immediately lose 1 worker).		There are in total 42 gods in BGA Santorini. It does not mean there are only 42 strategies for the god matchup. Every matchup is composed of two gods. You not only need a specific strategy on your gods, but also on how to use your god well to counter the opponent’s god. A good example is Pegasus vs Hades, in this situation, Pegasus should never jump to an alone level-3 or it will immediately lose 1 worker (because Pegasus can never win the game by that level-3 worker). Also, attempting to win by moving from the corner is never good against Hippolyta (because she can block it and you will immediately lose 1 worker).

	In ~~this~~ review, I would write a comment on every god, on how to use it well, and the strategy to counter it well. Beware that Santorini is a two-player two-god game, simply reading “how to use” could not help you much on that god, since you need to know how to counter different gods under different matchup.		In the review provided, I (Santorini Full Guide Developers) would write a comment on every god, on how to use it well, and the strategy to counter it well. Beware that Santorini is a two-player two-god game, simply reading “how to use” could not help you much on that god, since you need to know how to counter different gods under different matchup.

	~~The link for the reviews is here: en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Fullguidesantorini~~

	== Basic strategy ==		== Basic strategy ==

ArielFriedrichGauss: /* God powers */

2020-09-03T03:48:01Z

God powers

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 When you are on the upper level with your opponent on the ground. You would like to ground your opponent. However, your opponent would like to be ungrounded and may build some level-1 next to your area of level-2’s. In this case, simply move your worker and build up the level-1 so that your opponent can be kept grounded.
-== God powers ==
+==God powers==
 The powers can be classified to these catorgies:
 * Opponment blocking: Blocking the opponment from moving, building, winning or using their god power.
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 * Others: Not mentioned catorgies, such as Chaos.
-All above contents are adopted from https://elusivemeeple.com/2017/09/03/san-torini-strategy-tips/ by user Ariel Friedrich Gauss.
+==Phases of Game==

ArielFriedrichGauss: /* Basic strategy */

2020-09-03T03:45:36Z

Basic strategy

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	== Basic strategy ==		== Basic strategy ==
	* ''Don’t fall (~~Unless you have Pan or Pegasus~~)''		Here are some basic tips and jargons (especially for newbies) that might be used in the review
	~~The biggest advice I can give is to not let yourself~~ be in a position where you have to jump down. If you lose height in this game it can be extremely difficult to get it back. Your opponent will try to keep you pinned down, and you can only build after moving. Dropping levels in this game is a quick way to give away an advantage to your opponent and likely lose the ~~match.~~
	~~However, we recommend falls from level 2 if your god is Pan, and it doesn't matter much to fall if your god is Pegasus.~~

	* ''Building on the diagonal''		===Get familiar with your board===
	~~This is more of a defensive move, but it’s important~~ to ~~watch the diagonal~~. ~~When the player builds that third level~~, ~~it’s often the build from~~ a ~~diagonal that is left open or wasn’t seen – this can cap the third level~~ and ~~stop the win! Building on the diagonal is often less obvious and hence powerful~~.		We define spaces to inner space and perimeter space (which includes corner space). Every inner space has 8 neighbouring spaces, but a perimeter space only has 5, and a corner space only has 3. That’s why winning always occurs in perimeter space. Opponent has fewer options to block your winning in corner space (Only 3).

	* ''Trapping a player''		===Stages in your turn and winning condition===
	~~It sounds like an obvious one, but putting this in to practice is difficult.~~ You can ~~trap~~ a ~~player if~~		You can win by moving up to a level-3. Realizing there are 4 stages in your turn, start of the turn, move stage, build stage and end of the turn, you should know that victory can only happen at the move stage. This could be an easier explanation of why being thrown to a tower by Charon, or Zeus building a level-3 below him cannot yield a win. Also, moving to a level-3 from level-3 cannot win since it is not a moving “up”.
	* (a) there ~~is no equivalent level or one higher for them to step on to~~, or
	* (b) if all the ~~towers around have a dome (best if used with Atlas)~~, or
	* (c) if all the ~~levels nearby are lower (used with Hades) or higher (used with Athena).~~
	~~This is tough~~, ~~but if~~ you can ~~create~~ a ~~gap between the player’s two pieces – and get both your pieces in between~~, ~~your build options are vastly superior and they can almost certainly not out run you. Many early players will focus on~~ building ~~up with just one character and cutting them off with both of yours will likely trap them in~~ a ~~corner and leave you with 2~~-~~1 and the rest of the board~~ to ~~play~~.

	* ''Using your piece to block''		For the explanation of stages, start of the turn and end of the turn are the stages where some power may happen here. Move stage is the stage where one of your workers must move. Build stage is the stage where your moved worker must build. If you cannot do what is required in these two stages, you need to resign.
	~~Another key trap~~ is ~~to use~~ your ~~own builder to block~~. ~~Sometimes it’s worth keeping them on a lower level just to block that tile being accessible to~~ your ~~opponent~~. ~~That might be just before building the third level (so your opponent~~ cannot ~~cap it)~~, ~~or it might be~~ to ~~stop your opponent being able to move before they can build. It’s a little trick that can reduce your opponents otherwise pretty open set of options~~.

	* ''Keeping them on the floor''		(Remark: The official explanation of the Charon case is the word “forced” by Charon does not fit the winning condition “move”, but I just think that using turn explanation is a better understanding for all gods, especially for the Zeus case)
	The ~~other noteworthy strategy is to build to the second level a lot before focusing on the third. This is equivalent to trapping in the other player or at least making it take them a lot~~ of ~~time to get to you! Building to the second level whenever your opponent builds to the first keeps them on~~ the ~~ground floor. This~~ is ~~helpful even if you are on the ground floor as well as you are probably filling up their side of~~ the ~~board with unusable space before rushing off to build behind you builder! This however~~ does not ~~work with Atlas~~, ~~since he can stop you before you build~~ the ~~third floor!~~

	* ''Using the ~~edge''~~		===Level-2 Blocking===
	~~Lastly~~, ~~as with~~ the ~~second~~ level, ~~the edge~~ is ~~unusable~~ and ~~finding yourself backed into an edge can~~ be ~~dangerous~~. ~~That being said,~~ I ~~have seen~~ this ~~used against me with~~ that ~~back corner being only accessible from three other squares –~~ if your opponent ~~doesn’t~~ stay ~~close~~, the corner is the ~~perfect place~~ to build ~~for~~ the win!		Mostly we need to move up to win. There are three common strategies in the early game. The first one is level-2 blocking, by building up the level-1 your opponent just built. In the mid-game, level-3 blocking is a common strategy too, by towering up every level-2 your opponent builds.

			===No-Interaction Strategy===
			Another one is no interaction strategy, by building up a level-1 simply next to yourself that is far away from your opponent, ignoring your opponent’s action and building for your victory. This strategy is best to be used by some fast builders.

			===Level-1 forfeiting Strategy===
			The third one that I commonly use against fast mover is this one. Level-1 forfeiting. It means building a block next to you, such that if your opponent goes up that block, he needs to build for you. That can happen when your C4 worker builds at C5. This strategy will make you stay with your opponent in most stages of the game.

			===Corner-L strategy===
			I would call this “Corner-L” strategy. If you have a worker on level-2 and you are in the corner, and there are two level-2’s next to you, forming exactly a “L-shape” in the corner, in most of the cases, you win. For example, you are on level-2 on E5 and there are two level-2’s on E4 and D5. This is because if the opponent worker moves to D4, you can build a third level on E5 and you win. If the opponent knows that and stays away however, you can move your second worker over to D4 and build at the corner. This makes you block that space and get the victory. If your opponent tries to block you when you are coming over there by moving into that space, then you still win because now he is in that space.

			===Grounded and ungrounded===
			When you are on the upper level with your opponent on the ground. You would like to ground your opponent. However, your opponent would like to be ungrounded and may build some level-1 next to your area of level-2’s. In this case, simply move your worker and build up the level-1 so that your opponent can be kept grounded.

	== God powers ==		== God powers ==

ArielFriedrichGauss: /* Introduction */

2020-09-03T03:44:06Z

Introduction

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	== Introduction ==		== Introduction ==
	~~This~~ is ~~no single~~ strategy ~~for Santorini~~, ~~which~~ is the ~~beauty of~~ the ~~game~~. ~~Each~~ god ~~has their own strengths~~ and ~~weaknesses depending on the stage of~~ the game, ~~and more importantly~~, the ~~gods they are facing~~.		There are in total 42 gods in BGA Santorini. It does not mean there are only 42 strategies for the god matchup. Every matchup is composed of two gods. You not only need a specific strategy on your gods, but also on how to use your god well to counter the opponent’s god. A good example is Pegasus vs Hades, in this situation, Pegasus should never jump to an alone level-3 or it will immediately lose 1 worker (because Pegasus can never win the game by that level-3 worker). Also, attempting to win by moving from the corner is never good against Hippolyta (because she can block it and you will immediately lose 1 worker).

			In this review, I would write a comment on every god, on how to use it well, and the strategy to counter it well. Beware that Santorini is a two-player two-god game, simply reading “how to use” could not help you much on that god, since you need to know how to counter different gods under different matchup.

			The link for the reviews is here: en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Fullguidesantorini

	== Basic strategy ==		== Basic strategy ==

ArielFriedrichGauss: /* Basic strategy */

2020-08-24T07:55:36Z

Basic strategy

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	== Basic strategy ==		== Basic strategy ==
	* ''Don’t fall (Unless you have Pan)''		* ''Don’t fall (Unless you have Pan or Pegasus)''
	The biggest advice I can give is to not let yourself be in a position where you have to jump down. If you lose height in this game it can be extremely difficult to get it back. Your opponent will try to keep you pinned down, and you can only build after moving. Dropping levels in this game is a quick way to give away an advantage to your opponent and likely lose the match.		The biggest advice I can give is to not let yourself be in a position where you have to jump down. If you lose height in this game it can be extremely difficult to get it back. Your opponent will try to keep you pinned down, and you can only build after moving. Dropping levels in this game is a quick way to give away an advantage to your opponent and likely lose the match.
	However, we recommend falls from level 2 if your god is Pan.		However, we recommend falls from level 2 if your god is Pan, and it doesn't matter much to fall if your god is Pegasus.

	* ''Building on the diagonal''		* ''Building on the diagonal''
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	It sounds like an obvious one, but putting this in to practice is difficult. You can trap a player if		It sounds like an obvious one, but putting this in to practice is difficult. You can trap a player if
	* (a) there is no equivalent level or one higher for them to step on to, or		* (a) there is no equivalent level or one higher for them to step on to, or
	* (b) if all the towers around have ~~the blue cap~~ (best if used with Atlas), or		* (b) if all the towers around have a dome (best if used with Atlas), or
	* (c) if all the levels nearby are lower (used with Hades) or higher (used with Athena).		* (c) if all the levels nearby are lower (used with Hades) or higher (used with Athena).
	This is tough, but if you can create a gap between the player’s two pieces – and get both your pieces in between, your build options are vastly superior and they can almost certainly not out run you. Many early players will focus on building up with just one character and cutting them off with both of yours will likely trap them in a corner and leave you with 2-1 and the rest of the board to play.		This is tough, but if you can create a gap between the player’s two pieces – and get both your pieces in between, your build options are vastly superior and they can almost certainly not out run you. Many early players will focus on building up with just one character and cutting them off with both of yours will likely trap them in a corner and leave you with 2-1 and the rest of the board to play.

Kevan: /* Introduction */ copy edit

2020-07-18T21:09:38Z

Introduction: copy edit

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	== Introduction ==		== Introduction ==
	This is no single strategy for Santorini which is the beauty of the game. Each god has ~~his/her~~ own strengths and weaknesses ~~depend~~ on the stage of the game and more importantly, ~~your opponents'~~ gods.		This is no single strategy for Santorini, which is the beauty of the game. Each god has their own strengths and weaknesses depending on the stage of the game, and more importantly, the gods they are facing.

	== Basic strategy ==		== Basic strategy ==

ArielFriedrichGauss: /* God powers */

2020-07-17T06:05:58Z

God powers

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	* Player build: Give more options for the player to build or change their times of building.		* Player build: Give more options for the player to build or change their times of building.
	* Winning conditions: Provide more winning methods for the player or steal the opponment's win.		* Winning conditions: Provide more winning methods for the player or steal the opponment's win.
			* Others: Not mentioned catorgies, such as Chaos.

	All above contents are adopted from https://elusivemeeple.com/2017/09/03/san-torini-strategy-tips/ by user Ariel Friedrich Gauss.		All above contents are adopted from https://elusivemeeple.com/2017/09/03/san-torini-strategy-tips/ by user Ariel Friedrich Gauss.

ArielFriedrichGauss: /* Basic strategy */

2020-07-17T06:02:57Z

Basic strategy

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	== Basic strategy ==		== Basic strategy ==
	* ''Don’t ~~Fall~~ (Unless you have Pan)''		* ''Don’t fall (Unless you have Pan)''
	The biggest advice I can give is to not let yourself be in a position where you have to jump down. If you lose height in this game it can be extremely difficult to get it back. Your opponent will try to keep you pinned down, and you can only build after moving. Dropping levels in this game is a quick way to give away an advantage to your opponent and likely lose the match.		The biggest advice I can give is to not let yourself be in a position where you have to jump down. If you lose height in this game it can be extremely difficult to get it back. Your opponent will try to keep you pinned down, and you can only build after moving. Dropping levels in this game is a quick way to give away an advantage to your opponent and likely lose the match.
	However, we recommend falls from level 2 if your god is Pan.		However, we recommend falls from level 2 if your god is Pan.
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	* ''Using the edge''		* ''Using the edge''
	Lastly, as with the second level, the edge is unusable and finding yourself backed into an edge can be dangerous. That being said, I have seen this used against me with that back corner being only accessible from three other squares – if your opponent doesn’t stay close, the corner is the perfect place to build for the win!		Lastly, as with the second level, the edge is unusable and finding yourself backed into an edge can be dangerous. That being said, I have seen this used against me with that back corner being only accessible from three other squares – if your opponent doesn’t stay close, the corner is the perfect place to build for the win!

			== God powers ==
			The powers can be classified to these catorgies:
			* Opponment blocking: Blocking the opponment from moving, building, winning or using their god power.
			* Opponment forcing: Forcing the opponment to move, build or lose.
			* Player move: Give more options for the player to move, change their times of moving or increase their number of workers.
			* Player build: Give more options for the player to build or change their times of building.
			* Winning conditions: Provide more winning methods for the player or steal the opponment's win.

	All above contents are adopted from https://elusivemeeple.com/2017/09/03/san-torini-strategy-tips/ by user Ariel Friedrich Gauss.		All above contents are adopted from https://elusivemeeple.com/2017/09/03/san-torini-strategy-tips/ by user Ariel Friedrich Gauss.